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I know that ice-hockey seasons are very long, but why do they play the World championships every year?  Wouldn't it have more status and credit, if they played it once every two or four years instead of being it a annual thing?

And am I correct that the United Stated last won it in 1960? I know they don't send a lot of best players due to the league, but really .........56 years and not one world championship?  :giggle:

I guess, it's a bit like the Premier League - without all the foreign players it just would explode to a very average level?

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It's ice hockey that interests me also the most, I'd say. I support Helsinki IFK (yes, the club has handball teams, too). Plus the end seasons of the rally world series and formula 1.

The World Cup tournament (and the former Canada Cup) is actually a very rare event. There have been held eight tournaments during 1976 to 2016 (last time 2004). The World Championship tournament is annual. The World Cup will be played in September before the NHL season and the World Championship in May. Both take about two weeks.
 

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And am I correct that the United Stated last won it in 1960? I know they don't send a lot of best players due to the league, but really .........56 years and not one world championship?  :giggle:

 

That's correct. They did win the -96 World Cup, though. But otherwise USA hasn't been that succesfull when you take all these tornaments in modern hockey. Which is odd since they do have lots of fantastic players. 

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Ehmmmm.... ice-hockey history in the NL, illustrated by some very accurate images!

 

Started after WW2, the Dutch ice-hockey competition was all kind of confusing, embarrassing and hilarious examples of an amateur sport with annual 4 to 36 matches played. From 1964 till now there is a (semi) professional league,  played by a different  number of teams, depending on sponsors. I would say, our best period was when Feenstra Flyers were the champions from 1975-1982. This sponsor made also able to import some good Canadian (often with Dutch roots) to the NL. It was also during this time the Dutch made it to the Olympics in 1980. One time only! 

They play (ed) in the famous Thialf venue in Heerenveen, which every Dutchie knows for its ice speed skating. in their haydays they drew 1000-3500 spectators, what was spectacular considering the place ice-hockey has here.

 

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The last few years the league consists of 6 Dutch and 1 Belgian team. It's all played in the more unknown and darker regions of the Dutch sports scene nowadays. The number of ice hockeyers in the NL is nowhere near the most popular 25 sports. It all has to do with money, not so much the cultural side of things, because success has been done. But we can't play ice-hockey outside in winter, so we are totally depended on indoor venues which are expensive and quite busy with other sports. 

 

Postcard from 1913

 

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Well known coaches in that 'glory' time for the Feenstra Flyers were Alex Andjelic (Yugoslavia), Dave Hyrsky (Canada) and ......Chuck Norris (USA). Have you ever heard of them Harvest or Whitenoise? So, concerning Dutch ice-hockey it's all doom and gloom and I can't see any improvement any time soon. Athletics, gymnastics, even cycling are on the up due to success by examplary sporters in those sports like Dafne Schippers. From the broadcasting point of view, only the league finals play-offs do get some time by our national broadcaster. For the rest: NADA!

 

 

There were 175 female ice-hockeyers in the Netherlands in 2011. Nice to see 12,5 % of them here. Hope they had fun!

 

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The nicest ice-hockey images in the NL are, when the canals get frozen and literally everybody lives on the ice. Hup, from your frontdoor on to the ice and have fun. Mothers with prams, fathers pulling sledges, couples skating hand in hand, older people performing old-fashioned style of riding and dances and everybody enjoying hot chocolate (with or without rum), thick and filling peasoup and hot kwast (lemonjuice with sugar - delicious). Without exaggerating these kind of days are magical, especially when the sun is shining and in the evening with the glow of street lanterns.

 

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Chuck Norris (USA). Have you ever heard of them Harvest or Whitenoise? 

 

No. Must be one of those enforcer-type of hockey players. If you touch our star-player, you'll pay..... :)

 

I guess dutch hockey stays as a marginal sports. Fot it to reach international level, you should have years of work with junior-hockey players and that takes money. And the general public should be interested in hockey. Plus the compettion is hard. You have leagues in Norway, Germany and Denmark alone ready to take a promosing talent. Not to mention big, wealthy leagues in Sweden or Switzerland. That public interest seems to go towards speed skating, field hockey and other sports in the Netherlands. And that eventually steers the promising young athletes to other sports. 

 

In Finland hockey is almost our national sport these days. Even if we are past those post-95 World Championship-days (our first and it was one with a Swedish head coach :dash:) , when we had a big boom in our hockey. The league was very competitive and the teams were financially able to sign very good players from Czech Rebublic and America's minor leagues. I think SM-league has lost a bit of that recently, since the economy has gone down and especially talented younger players seem to go to American juniorleagues instead of breaking through in SM.league these days. Plus the wealthier Russian KHL, Swedish Hockey league and Swiss NLA are also signing loads of our better players with more lucrative contracts these days. The remaining players seem to be the ones, who are very good, but not in that international level. This is a little problem concerning Finnish league these days. 

 

The last NHL-draft continued the march of young Finnish players. Patrik Laine was drafted as 2nd overall by Winnipeg Jets (which started the Selänne-comparisons, obviously),  Jesse Puljujärvi was 4th overall by Edmonton Oilers (which of course started some comparisons to Kurri, because "modern Gretzky", Connor McDavid is without a decent wingman). And defenceman Olli Juolevi went 5th overall. Next years most anticipated Finns are offencemen Eeli Tolvanen and Kristian Vesalainen and a defenceman Urho Vaakanainen. Bubbling under, HPK-goalie Ukko-Pekka Luukkonen, a huge netminder with a bright future. 

 

During the first years of 2000's we were puzzled by the fact that Finnish juniorsystem didn't produce world class talents. Finns were mostly players with high work ethics, but lacked that finishing touch that makes a star. Coaches renewed about ten years ago and that seems to pay off now. Plus of course this bunch of players were born in the years following that -95 WC. During that big boom I was referring to. 

 

To conclude:I wouldn't call somebody mad if they would say Finland is one of the biggest favorites to win the gold metals in 2022 winter olympics (if they allow NHL-players that is). These players are matured to adults by then. And there are allready a bunch of very talented young Finnish players in the NHL as well....

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His highlights are all good, but 2.32 onwards is as good as basketball gets. Last shot, game on the line, and he makes it way beyond the 3-point line. I also love the announcer:

 

"Here is Durant...FOR THE WIN!"

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I haven't watched much of the Paralympics, but there are some astonishing performances by these sporters in Rio. Like this Egyptian table-tennis player who hasn't got arms anymore, but plays with his mouth! And extraordinarily good!!

 

 

And yesterday I saw a Chinese female swimmer without arms doing the 4 x 50m medley! She lead the first two strokes, but then lost the battle from swimmers with one or two arms!

 

Respect! 

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Been watching lots of Ice Hockey lately. World Cup came and went and Finland basically sucked in that tournament. Three games, three losses, 1-9 goal difference. The worst Finnish team has played in ages. Well, I'd say it was a good lesson. There was a certain condescending attitude towards that young North American team within the Finnish hockey community and it was a good lesson for these people. Arrogance doesn't get you anywhere and that team had it's bunch of future superstars. No need to undermine these guys at all. So they pulled a wedgie on Finnish team with a 4-1 victory. 

 

And after that it was Sweden. Finland needed to win that game and it was way better game. But you only win if you score goals. And Finnish players missed their chances time after time. Sweden needed two goals, one in the empty net to secure the victory and they made sure Finns were out from the quarter final stage. The final game against the Russians had no significance any more.

 

So, I have been following NHL lately, since Patrik Laine, "the next Selänne" (ironically he is playing in Winnipeg Jets just like Selänne did), is starting his NHL-career. There has been lots of comparisons between him and the number one draft pick, Toronto maple Leafs-player Auston Matthews. So naturally these guys have been on the spotlight ever since WJC 2016. Matthews scored 4 goals in his NHL-debut, which is the best since forever. Laine responded a few days later, when Jets were playing against Toronto, by scoring three goals. One of them tied the game, the other one was a game winning goal in overtime. After Matthews had missed a breakaway. These guys are putting on a show, for sure. 

 

Back in Finland, the League has reached 1/4 mark. Team I support, HPK, is finally back on track. Our coach, Antti Pennanen, has conjured up tactics that are both fun to watch and bring results. HPK hired a young goalie, Emil Larmi from Pelicans during the summer and this guy has been sensational. HPK defence hasn't been very good (to put it mildly), but Larmi has saved many points for HPK so far. Being that MVP.  It's time for a little break, which comes in the right time for HPK. A douchebag called Antti Tyrväinen did this to our best defence man, Joonas Lehtivuori and earned a 12 game suspension. Lehtivuori is out indefinitely due to a concussion. Charging, illegal hit to the head. Antti Tyrväinen is the biggest douche in Finnish league at the moment. He is known for these kinds of over-the-top hits and he is constantly in spotlight because of his foul play. Even the fans of his team, the Pelicans, want to throw him under the buss after that hit. Well, I hope Lehtivuori gets back soon. 

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Forget ice-hockey for a moment, Harvest!

Lotta Lepisto won a bronze medal for Finland at the Cycling World Championships!!! And I predict that she will win a lot more in the coming years when she stays healthy!! :music:  :good:

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Forget ice-hockey for a moment, Harvest!

 

 

Pretty hard, since there is so much happening. But the Finnish league is taking a little break now and I'm probably going to take a little breather as well. BTW, this just in. 

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Goals 5 and 6 for Patrik Laine. This guy is everything the doctor ordered for Finnish ice hockey. Too many times we have lost big games due the lack of scoring talent and we really haven't had a natural scorer like this since the heydays of Selänne. And I like this guys cocky attitude as well:

Interviewer - What do you want to say to the Swedish crowd?

Laine - Prepare to lose.

Now that's the spirit :laugh:

 

Lotta Lepisto won a bronze medal for Finland at the Cycling World Championships!!! And I predict that she will win a lot more in the coming years when she stays healthy!! :music:  :good:

 

Well, nice to hear that. I'm not the biggest specialist in cycling, I must admit. But I must keep an eye on her, too. 

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Mad Max on the rampage!!

Seldom did I enjoy watching F1 more than yesterday afternoon. It was bizar on all kind of fronts...........safety-cars/red flags/ crashes/ near-crashes/audience booing the race-organisation/wrong tyre changes/ spins/ rain and more rains/aquaplaning.....in short, all that you want from a F1 race and certainly a wet one.

 

And then that those last 15 laps when Max Verstappen, starting in 16th position due to wrong Red Bull's decisions on tyre choice, began his conquest, ending in a astonishing 3rd spot. Having had 5 pit stops (to Hamilton's 2), he would have driven for the win otherwise, but that last 20 minutes were amongst the best I've ever seen in Formula 1.

And those senile English race officials may thank Max on their knees for his superior racing yesterday, for they did screw up F1 once more. No wonder they lost 2/3 of their audience already with all their disgusting and controversial rules.  

 

 

Here's a small video of his main overtakes, accompanied by a Dutch song with the title: 'Get out of the way, get out of the way, I've got only a few minutes left'! :giggle: 

 

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No matter what great sporting performance the Dutch achieved this year, it was all completely overshadowed by the passing away of Johan Cruijff. Johan was in my eyes the best, most artistic and influential footballer ever and I'm not saying that because I'm a fellow country man. There are lots of non-Dutch sports people I do admire, but none have made such a deep impression on me and stayed with me for ever. 

I enjoyed Platini, Zico, Zidane, Bergkamp, Messi etc. a lot, but no one came close to the innovative and creative brilliance of Johan. After his playing days, he probably made an even bigger impact on world football by being a coach. His was also intensely involved with his foundation which provided (and still does) for hundreds and hundreds of the so-called 'Cruijjff-courts in poorer suburbs all over the world.

But seeing him play live and on tv was absolutely a privilege and it's very difficult to explain to a foreigner how much we loved Johan, not only as a footballer, but also for what a fine personality he had. Although we're not likely to admit it very easy, but we Dutchies are incredible proud how good a name Johan has all over the world. He was by far the most well known Dutchie with a very positive name, even in Madrid!

 

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one of his courts in Johannesburg:

 

 

 

There have been made quite a few films about Johan, but I consider 'En un momento dado' to be the best. It's a much more insightful look into the influence he had in Barcelona, Catalunya and Spain. it's a great watch. Rest in peace, Johan.  

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I never thought I was going to write, that I am looking forward to a Formula 1-season. Never cared that much for motorsports, the main reason being that results for 80% depend on what machine you ride/drive. Even when Dutch drivers participated, I didn't care much, but Max Verstappen (and an ever growing  major disinterest in football) has all changed that. He has got qualities in him that are recognizable world class and, if staying healthy, those could earn him a few world championships.

But put him, or anyone for that matter, in a Manor and you just know they won't score many points, if at all. I admit, I do love a good crash (without serious injuries ofcourse), rain races, overtakes and races where not a of cars finish. Especially in this sport, I'm also in favour of the underdog. No clue if that qualifies me as a real fan, but I don't care. A bit of action. that's what I want! :music:  

 

So Bottas goes to Mercedes and, apart from Manor, all other seats are occupied. Even if it's only January, I think it's nice to do some predictions in two ways:

One top-10 of drivers, who I want to do well, let's call it the top-10 of HOPE, and a top-10 based on a more realistic approach. Let's call that one the top-10 in REALITY.

 

Top-10 of HOPE:

 

 1. The Clog (who else :) )

 2. The Shoey

 3. The Hulk

 4. The Quiet One 

 5. The Lucky One

 6. Checo

 7. Spanish Junior

 8. The Turtle

 9. The Moaner

10. The Scumbag 

 

Top-10 In Reality:

 

 1. The Shoey

 2. The Scumbag

 3. The Clog

 4. The Lucky One 

 5. The Moaner

 6. The Quiet One

 7. Checo

 8. Spanish Junior

 9. The Hulk

10. Alonsonitus 

 

 

(explanation: The Clog = Verstappen/ The Shoey = Ricciardo)/ The Lucky One = Bottas/ The Quiet One = Raikonen/ The Hulk = Hulkenberg/ Checo = Perez/ Spanish Junior = Sainz/ The Turtle = Vandoorn/ The Moaner = Vettel/ The Scumbag = Hamilton/ Alonsonitus = Alonso)

 

Anyone else got her/his prediction? 

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Watching the 2017 NHL All-Star hockey games...

 

3 Finns are playing....

 

Pekka Rinne-Nashville-Tampere

 

Patrik Laine-Winnipeg Jets-Tampere

 

Tuukka Rask-Boston Bruins-Savonlinna

 

Good game play so far.....

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After a drought of 37 years, the Dutch are very happy being able to announce a countryman as the winner of one of the Grand Tours of cycling, the 2017 GIRO D'ITALIA!!!!!:clap:

Despite having a CRAP of a day at the 16th stage, he managed to hold off a dangerous wheelsucking Colombian climbing goat, a very cunning but not brave enough Italian, a Frenchman with a big and brave heart, a disgusting immoral Russian, a friendly Luxemburger, a desperate Englishman and a cooperative fellow Dutchie.  

Well done TOM DUMOULIN!!!! 

You've given us Dutchies something we desperately longed for.............. for soooooooooooooooo long!!! Let's enjoy the coming years!

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The Dutch have had a wonderful sporting weekend......

Marianne Vos won the European Cycling roadrace after a few years of physical and mental problems. It's her first major prize since a longtime. Good on the already best female cyclist ever! She has a fantastic attitude and a modest personality. And then yesterday, Wouter Wippert became third at the men's race.

Dafne Schippers got a bit of a unexpected (for me anyway) bronze medal in the 100 meters sprint at the Worlds Athletics in London. The whole race (like the men's) was a very strange and unexpected race, but not less wonderful. Dafne changed trainers since last year and she's not entirely back at her best, because she had to change her techniques, but these signs are very encouraging, especially with the 200 meters to come. But to me, she lost quite a lot of her souplesse and became much more muscled, heavier and less attractive to see her run. Also her times were nowhere near those of 2015 the last year. I much prefer runners doing their sport on souplesse and natural style. And why change everything when you're the fastest dopefree 200m runner ever and a very good 100m runner!!!!!!! I don't get it! I quite like the style of the winner Tori Bowie. And the world has got a new top star 'pocket runner' in Marie-Jose Talou from the Ivory Coast, who thought she had won and so did I !!!  Not pretty to see running, but bloody fast! 

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And then Anouk Vetter became third at the women's heptathlon, which was wonderful. She looks pretty fragile from stature, but she is a tough cookie! And already European champion as well last year. But like Nadine Visser, the other Dutch heptathlon athlete in the battle for the top-10,  looks much slimmer and more fragile than most of their competitors. But they're nice to look at! Gold to the fantastic Niaf Thiam, a great athletic and nice looking Belgian. Respect, as she's still young and already Olympic and World champion!!

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But the best sporting result came from our footballing ladies who became European Champion, after having beaten the stern Danish women in a thrilling match. Now, I can say many negative things about women's football in general (the goalkeepers, the utter stupid demand for equal treatment/money as the men, their abilities, the coaches etc.), but I want to emphasize on this one match which was fun, attractive, fast-paced with a thrilling score.

Two attacking teams who gave their best and showed a lot of good abilties. Also quite a few very negative features in the men's game were absent, but the more professional it becomes, the more these traits will become part of it unfortunately........diving, time waisting, giving the referees a hard time, 'professional' fouls. You saw already some of those.

I think the best solution would be, to bring the men's salaries on level with the women's!!!!! Not the other way around!!!! Football would become so much more pleasant on all levels!

But back to the Dutch ladies. I was very surprised to see their standard of play had risen so much over the last few years. It's all down to a structural plan, which was laid 15 years ago. I normally watch women's football only at semi-final and final level in the big tournaments, but followed the NL all the way, because it was played here.

I enjoyed their group games more as a national fan, but the quarter-final (2-0 against Sweden - a favourite), the semi-final (3-0 against England - another favourite) and especially the final (4-2 against Denmark) were great to see from a Netherlands point of view! Good tactics, attractive and fast play all around and in the end a deserved winner. Although, I wouldn't have mind much if Denmark had won it. You can get a wonderful match if you got 2 teams with similar attractive attitudes, something you rarely see in the men's game anymore.

The 2 best footballers of the tournament

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So, from a Dutch perspective a pretty fine sporting weekend.  

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Waiting for the 200 m semis as well. Fingers crossed for Dafne. And of course lovely Ivet Lalova is also there. 

From Finnish point of view - nothing new here. London will be a disaster. The only athlete with some final level chances, is Tero Pitkämäki. Again. Our Athletics has taken a complete nosedive and there's nothing much in the future, either. 

Noora-Lotta Neziri (100m hurdles), once one of our biggest young talents,  had to quit the season early because of stress caused by over training. A little bit of improvement to her record 12,81 and she could well be in the finals some day, but lets see what happens to he career now.

And the Ice Hockey season also started with a pre-season game between HPK and KHL-team Sibir. HPK signed a bunch a very interesting young talents. The biggest one being Kristian Vesalainen, who was the best scorer in the springs U-18 world championships and got drafted by Winnipeg Jets in the first round. It's actually very rare that a talent like this chooses HPK as a stepping stone for major leagues and we have to thank our coach, Antti Pennanen, for that. The guy is clearly seen as a great coach by these younger players, when it comes to developing player's skills. And I'm pretty sure Pennanen will be the coach of Finnish national team in the near future.

HPK took a 5-1 victory and the game seemed very promising. Of course it's very early, but the team seemed ready for the season. A month left to season starting and I'm all ready waiting for a great season. After roughly ten years of all kinds of chaos from financial difficulties to coaches always changing, to signing all kinds of players with not much upside in their game, this is more than welcome.

 

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Hey Harvest,

You lot should be playing field hockey (the real stuff :P), because July only has just passed. It's still high summer!!!!!!!! :dwarf::dwarf: 

Not only climate is changing, ice-hockey has become a summer sport. Why not put it in the Summer Olympics?:giggle:

 

Yes, I've got a good feeling about Dafne's chances and form. Ivet might even have an outside chance on a bronze medal, as the participants seem to fall like flies! My prediction for the 200: 

1. Dafne - 21.75

2. Marie Jose Talou - 21.99

3. Shauna Miller-Uido - 22.04

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Of course, our summer sport is different from our winter sport!!!

In field hockey, we are in the fourth highest division of EuroHockey and lost all matches this year. Finland's world ranking is 75.

https://tms.fih.ch/fih/competitions/756

That is still far better than our FIFA ranking that is 110.

http://www.fifa.com/fifa-world-ranking/ranking-table/men/index.html

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7 hours ago, hunebedbouwer said:

Hey Harvest,

You lot should be playing field hockey (the real stuff :P), because July only has just passed. It's still high summer!!!!!!!! :dwarf::dwarf: 

Not only climate is changing, ice-hockey has become a summer sport. Why not put it in the Summer Olympics?:giggle:

Well, our summer just started and it's all ready  ending, so....

 

3 hours ago, whitenoise said:

Of course, our summer sport is different from our winter sport!!!

 

Wow, the intensity is out of this world. And I think even oour Athletics are in a better shape than our football.....

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@Whitenoise and Harvest

Go and play outside....

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translated to modern times

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There really have been some weird and surprising races at the Worlds Athletics, not to mention the idiotic and unclear behaviour of the IAAF in case of Botswanian Mkwala. What will he do when he wins the 200 meter?????? Throw a javelin into the IAAF officials box? He's got my approval! 

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Well, that 200 m final will be a tough one. Schippers, Miller-Uibo and Ta Lou within hundred of a second. It's going to be an exciting final, for sure. Like always, I was also keeping my fingers crossed for Ivet Lalova. But, unfortunately the sunny Bulgarian lady had worst spot, when she was the first one dropping out of the final. 

Javelin throw final is going to be one hell of a final. Pitkämäki surprised with his 86 meter throw, I just hope there is a bit more left in his sleeve . I'm guessing we are going to see +90 meter throws in the final. The level seems to be exceptionally high this year. 

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I saw that German guy Vetter throwing 91 meter ....and only for his qualification!!!!!!!

Imagine, if that was his lucky throw and he doesn't throw anywhere near that in the final. I think Tero did alright with 85...., but I'm afraid he needs a bigger throw for a medal. Around the 90 meter mark and further, I reckon. Fingers crossed.

I'm a bit staggered that the Nordic countries are not more into field hockey. If they only spend 10% of their ice-hockey funds into it, they could become world class with their already good general hockey techniques. Furthermore, none of them are top class (in terms of gold medals) in the Summer Olympics, why not use it for an olympic summer sport to create a bit more participation and fun for their nations? Canada and the USA are on the rise through some good investment. Belgium, Italy, France, Malaysia, Russia, Poland and Chili have seen the possibilities to participate in the Olympics to name a few.  

I know what it is like to have no contestants in sports.....it's often a side show. But as soon as you got a participant (and better...a good one) in a sport, it's getting interesting. And with their ice hockey background, it should be much easier to get to the top. And they can't use the long winters as an excuse for there are lots of indoor facilities. Here in the NL we don't play outdoors hockey.  But there is an indoor competition and there are often international tournaments in countries with good weather. Also, floorball is on the rise here. 

I think it's a exciting sport to watch as well. Fast, players need good techniques, lots of scoring chances and mindblowing hard hits!!! It's a wonder that there aren't a few players killed every match, but it speak volumes for their techniques. That ball is a monster hard ball and apart from the keeper (and at penalty corners) players don't wear much protection (mouth piece/shin protectors). 

One of the things I like most......there's no attacking referees, foulmouthing referees is not excepted and you can't hit the ball away for delay. If you do that you'll get a green (2 minutes) or yellow (5 minutes) card and you have to go to the sin bin. And the clock only starts when you actually sit! Also, if you don't take the expected distance from a free hit, you will get a card! It's such a blessing and refreshing to see such attitude and rules in sport, especially compared to football!!!!

Another good recent change was that there is no offside-rule anymore and a player can take a sideline ball themselves and continue play. You would have thought that no offside-rule would completely change the game by leaving one or two players at the opposite side, but it didn't happen! You simply can't miss them in the rest of the play! So, you got an even more flowing game. And with the use of challenges (each team has 1) and therefore camera, I think field hockey is by far the most innovative sport in the world in a positive way. I didn't watch it that much, but now I do, female and men.

The only thing that I don't like is that they did cut playing time in 4 times 15 minutes instead of 2 times 35 minutes. But, I'll tell you, the players must have one of the best conditions in sports! At tournaments, it's normal to play every day or every other day!  

But there's always underwater-hockey.........

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52 minutes ago, hunebedbouwer said:

I saw that German guy Vetter throwing 91 meter ....and only for his qualification!!!!!!!

Imagine, if that was his lucky throw and he doesn't throw anywhere near that in the final. I think Tero did alright with 85...., but I'm afraid he needs a bigger throw for a medal. Around the 90 meter mark and further, I reckon. Fingers crossed.

It wasn't. He threw 94,44 a month ago and has been throwing  88-90 meter throws regularly this summer. My bet would be that we are going to see something special in the finals. Vetter is the biggest favorite to win the whole thing, but his countryman Thomas Röhler has also been in top form this season. After them it gets more even. There is a bunch of throwers with 86-88 meter throw from this season, including Pitkämäki (season best 88,27). It really wouldn't surprise me, if you had to throw past 89 meter line for medal this time. 

1 hour ago, hunebedbouwer said:

II'm a bit staggered that the Nordic countries are not more into field hockey. If they only spend 10% of their ice-hockey funds into it, they could become world class with their already good general hockey techniques. 

I think they should take that 10% from football, instead. Football gets more government funding in Finland than any other sport and still the results are what they are. 

1 hour ago, hunebedbouwer said:

I think it's a exciting sport to watch as well. Fast, players need good techniques, lots of scoring chances and mindblowing hard hits!!! It's a wonder that there aren't a few players killed every match, but it speak volumes for their techniques. 

 

This is what draws people to Ice Hockey as well, I guess. It's very fast, intense game and even if they have taken out a lot of that physical side with sometimes ridiculous rules, there is still a lot of physical play involved. But still, about 15 years ago this open ice body check was considered great hit and changed the pace of the whole play-off series between HPK and TPS . Nowadays Marko Tuulola would probably be ejected from the game+ a few games suspension. 

 

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On 11/08/2017 at 11:53 AM, hunebedbouwer said:

I'm a bit staggered that the Nordic countries are not more into field hockey. If they only spend 10% of their ice-hockey funds into it, they could become world class with their already good general hockey techniques. Furthermore, none of them are top class (in terms of gold medals) in the Summer Olympics, why not use it for an olympic summer sport to create a bit more participation and fun for their nations? Canada and the USA are on the rise through some good investment. Belgium, Italy, France, Malaysia, Russia, Poland and Chili have seen the possibilities to participate in the Olympics to name a few.  

When baseball was introduced into the Olympics, there was at least a half-serious discussion in Finland that we could set up a baseball team out of our pesäpallo (aka Finnish baseball) players and try to get into the Olympics because even though it is a different sport, they can still hit and catch and throw the ball. But it requires also a different eye on the game, different tactics and suchlike. It's a more complex thing than just hitting, caching and throwing accurately.

On 11/08/2017 at 11:53 AM, hunebedbouwer said:

I know what it is like to have no contestants in sports.....it's often a side show. But as soon as you got a participant (and better...a good one) in a sport, it's getting interesting. And with their ice hockey background, it should be much easier to get to the top. And they can't use the long winters as an excuse for there are lots of indoor facilities. Here in the NL we don't play outdoors hockey.  But there is an indoor competition and there are often international tournaments in countries with good weather. Also, floorball is on the rise here. 

Well, considering that our outdoor fields rest under snow and ice a few months in a year and even longer in unusable condition, I dare to argue that it is a definite disadvantage compared to mainland Europe.

Indoor facilities need money. They need government's money as well as clubs' and users' money. And that money is off from other activity (coaching, training camps, etc.). The larger the pitch size the more money must be invested in building and maintenance costs. AFAIK field hockey needs a pitch that is almost the size of a football pitch. We have underground facilities in cities and winter-time air-supported domes around the country for football but they are rather expensive for clubs and, I think, fully booked. Plus, I don't know if field hockey can be played on football (synthetic) grass.

In addition to ice hockey, floorball, inline hockey and bandy are popular in Finland, so I doubt there is much room for another hockey sport in a rather limited population.

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