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I really think we need a thread for this fantastic band. Their first album was superbly crafted melodeath, but the next album is something different and simply an amazing masterpiece of symphonic madness and great musicianship. It will be released in a few weeks, but I've been listening to it non-stop since I got it for review a month ago. It has simply become one of my all-time favorite albums, I think, and quite beyond anything I've heard before. It shows that it took 8 years to create

 

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Wintersun was originally created by guitarist Jari Mäenpää as a side project to folk metal band Ensiferum, for whom he was lead singer and guitarist. In 2003, Mäenpää began culling together songs that he'd been working on since 1995. These songs followed specific themes described by Mäenpää as majestic, "spacy", and melodic. While Mäenpää planned to perform and record each instrument for the first album himself, he still required a drummer. He sent demos to Kai Hahto, former member of Rotten Sound, who agreed to perform the drums.

 

After obtaining a record deal, Mäenpää scheduled studio time to record the first album. Ensiferum's tour to support their 2004-release was scheduled at the same time, which forced Mäenpää to request time off from the band. The band instead fired him, and Mäenpää was free to go ahead with the production of his self-titled album, Wintersun.

 

After the release of Wintersun, the band found permanent members to perform shows and promote the album, although a keyboardist would never be found. In 2006, Wintersun began work on their second album, tentatively titled Time. Recording began in May of that year, but the album would be the recipient of years-long delays for a multitude of reasons, not the least of which was the complexity of each song's mix.

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The debut is nice, but I didn't listen it for quite a few years. Ensiferum, among other bands, released great albums. Now that Time, or at least the first part of it, is about to be released I have zero expectations and excitement. I checked the three or so trailers they released in the Summer, and they weren't really interesting. I'm not surprising to see the album being praised though, as some of the fanbase is quite ardent. But I definitely need to check it out at some point, maybe I love it, maybe I hate it, remains to be seen.

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I have pretty much same feelings than Cursarion. I think the album is worth of checking but let's see if I gonna like it.

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I didn't know what to expect either. I just heard one brief sound clip from one of their previews, and couldn't really tell if it was good or just massively overblown. After hearing the album the 2nd time, I just got hooked. In my humble opinion, it is simply the best symphonic metal album I've ever heard. Three grand compositions in 40 minutes (two of the 5 tracks are "just" beautiful intros). So yeah - definetely check it out.

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I heard some longer previews of it and it's truly spectacular when it comes to versatility and blending different styles, but I'm a little afraid that some people will be disappointed because it's not enough "metal", especially since a big part of the Wintersun fanbase belong to the harsher metal side. Some of the songs had really long gaps with just orchestration and even though it is beautiful some may find it dragged out.

 

But I guess if you are a symphonic fan all in all the album will be appreciated :)

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Frankly I can't get why Wintersun's debut album is so highly acclaimed :dunno:

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Listening to the full album for the first time right now, so far it's overwhelming!

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I have listened to the album a couple of times and it sounds great. I would say, one of the best releases this year.

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Wow so Time is finally out? I have to check it out. I know that it took forever and theres been a lot of anticipation and high expectations arround it. I loved the first release. Death and the Healing is my favourite song, it's so beautiful.

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Wow I'm overwhelmed with this new album Time, I just finished listening to the intro and the first song and it clocks around 17 minutes! Really epic stuff.

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It's really :dwarf: great stuff, really powerful. Thought I'd only be able to listen to it on October 19.

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Really satisfied with the album :) to bad it took 8 years to release it, but well worth the wait imo. The only song that I found a bit hard to enjoy at first was Land of Snow and Sorrow cause it seemed so flat and wrong placed after a big piece like Sons, but that faded away quite fast. Can't wait to hear the rest next year!

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So it's officially out? I hope 7Digital will include it, it's the only way for me to buy digital music (it has PayPal and it doesn't bug me about the fact that I'm not in the USA). Sadly it's always a surprise whether new albums/singles will be included or not. Anyway, I'm looking forward to the album!

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Good to hear that I'm not alone in adoring this album. After 1½ months of near worship, I am finally getting to a point where I can listen to other albums for prolonged periods of time without feeling compelled to listen to one of these songs just one more time.

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So the band has been nominated for an Emma for best Finnish metal album of 2012. I can only hope the best for them - I think they definetely deserve to win.

 

Their statement from earlier today:

 

Hi everyone!

 

Great news! "TIME I" has been nominated for the Emma-gaala 2013 in the category "Best national metal album"! 2012 has been a great year for us so far. Besides two successful tours and chart entries in Europe and North America

we were extremely thrilled to see the amazing reception "TIME I" got in our native Finland. We're feeling really honoured for the Emma nomination and want to thank everybody who has supported us and made it possible!

 

The gala will be held 1st of March 2013.

Get more info about Emma-Gaala here: www.emmagaala.fi

 

Cheers!

Kai, Jukka, Jari & Teemu

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I agree Kristian, they deserve to win. It's the best album in that category so I really hope they'll win.

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Some news about Time II: Taken from their facebook-site: "We are starting the mix of Time II and it will be released early 2014." https://www.facebook...ntersun?fref=ts

 

So, about a year. I can't wait!

 

But before that they said that Time II will be out on stores this year, right? Anyway, I can wait because I'm sure it will be worth, I loved Time, it is a great record and I'm excited about what is coming with the next album :D

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Yeah, it was last year when they said that the album will be out this year but things have changed.

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This guy is unbelievable.

 

Wintersun's Jari Mäenpää Explains "Time II" Album Delay

 

After the long wait for "Time I" to finally be released, fans have been left hanging again waiting for the follow-up "Time II." Now Wintersun's Jari Mäenpää has issued the following statement online about the reasons behind the delay:

 

"Reality update about crowd funding, TIME II and future albums. I´m very happy to see that we have so much dedicated fans that would be willing to pledge and be a part of funding a studio for Wintersun, so I could make the next Wintersun album without it taking another 10 years again.

 

"I´ve been thinking about this Kickstarter/Pledge crowd funding thing for a while and I´m very confident now that there is enough of you guys that would help us raise the money for the Wintersun studio! This would give me the freedom to make music efficiently and nonstop. It would eliminate lot of the problems I´ve struggled with all my life and still continue to struggle everyday. For example right now I need a studio to reamp guitars for TIME II. And not just any studio, my own studio where I can craft my sounds exactly like I want them. 3rd party studios have never worked for me and I´ve never gotten satisfactory results for the insane prices they charge.

 

"I live in a small sh***y apartment building and I have neighbors. It is very very hard to work like this. I can´t record vocals, I can´t practice my singing, I can´t record guitars, I can´t record guitars even with modelling amps, because the electricity is so bad in this sh***y building so I get lots of interference, I even play and practice the electric guitar acoustically without an amp 99% of the time in my home, I can´t record drums or basically any acoustic instruments, I don´t have the room or cool space for a big computer farm which is a must for the orchestrations for the next album (the place is too small and hot even for the one computer I have), I can´t mix properly, ´cause the room is so bad and there´s always ambient noise in and outside the building. That´s why I usually turn my sleeping rhythm around and mix at nights, but that causes problems in my everyday life. I can´t do pretty much anything properly in this situation. Building a professional studio for Wintersun would erase all this and give us the freedom to make music nonstop. It would upgrade our album sound significantly and most importantly speed up the album making process significantly. This would even raise our live game. With proper preproduction, able to tweak our live sounds and setup properly we would sound pretty incredible live. We would also be able to rehearse more and that would allow us to be able to play live more often and come to places where we normally have not been able to come. The studio would allow us to have more time for everything.

 

"But the problem is this. I have a record deal with Nuclear Blast. If I would do a Kickstarter with a downloadable album for example, they would come with lawyers and take % share (more than half) away from the money that is your money meant for the Wintersun studio and the album production. Would you even want to pledge if Wintersun didn´t get 100% of the money you´ve pledged for the album production? Then our management would take their % share away. Then there´s taxes of course. The Finnish government would take something like 40% away. This would leave me nothing. I would be totally screwed. I´ve been trying to have a discussion with Nuclear Blast about crowd funding, but they are totally freaking out. They see the crowd funding as a threat to their business and they would rather see Wintersun dead, than me doing a crowd funding. I think this would not hurt them at all, only benefit them, but they cannot see the big picture of Wintersun doing well. They actually told me point blank that I should just stop making music and they will never release Wintersun from the contract. It´s really like this, because they can´t or won´t loan me enough money to build a studio and fund an album, they don´t want other people (the fans) to fund it either… unless they get a crazy big cut of the funding (for doing absolutely nothing).

"This is the way a record deal works: The label gives an advance to make an album. This is a loan and they will recoup every penny back from the record sales. The reason why TIME I&II has taken so long to make (and still is taking long to finish TIME II), is because I haven´t gotten enough advances (money) to make these complex albums. Not even close. So I´ve been struggling all these years and sacrificed everything to make these albums. I have never really made any money from Wintersun. All my money has gone to album production, but you can guess who have made tons of money from Wintersun.

 

"The point is that I need my own studio to make the future albums, but Nuclear Blast won´t be able to loan enough money to make that happen and then they won´t allow me to do a crowd funding campaign either that would make it happen. And even if Nuclear Blast would be able to loan me the money for the studio, our management would take their share of that money and I would get only part of the money, but I would still have to pay back 100% to Nuclear Blast from the record sales. So I would actually lose big chunk of the album production money straight away, which makes no sense at all. And then there´s the taxes. So there´s no point of taking these 'loans' either.

 

"This all is stressing me out very badly and it´s slowing my workflow. I´ve got enough technical problems to deal with making these albums. I just want the freedom to make music, but I guess it is what it is. Honestly, I feel like I´ve signed a deal with the devil and I´m just a slave in the system.

 

"I´ve got probably 5 long albums worth of new insanely good material! And there´s no filler material at all! The music is much more refined, much more advanced in arrangement/composition/productionwise. It´s diverse and beautiful, heavy, chaotic and exploring different styles&themes and some new dimensions I feel no band has explored before… The stuff is simply on another level, in a different universe than the debut album and the TIME albums combined. I wrote the TIME albums around 2006 and before, that was a lifetime ago. Think of the stuff I´ve written ever since to this day! And I just keep on writing, I feel like I´m on fire. The music is just flowing out of me. I´m so excited about all this new music and I can´t wait to start recording and sharing it with you… BUT I can´t without a studio, that´s the problem…

 

"P.S. I should have stayed working in the post office!"

 

Source: http://www.metalunderground.com/news/details.cfm?newsid=104956

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^ 5 albums worth of new insanely good material? *lol*
Don't get me wrong. I really enjoy the 3 songs on Time I (not counting the intros) but in this special case I have to say that I really understand Nuclear Blast ;)

 

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Me too. His attitude is lousy. Instead of working hard so that he can afford to buy his own studio, he wants his fans or his label to pay for it?

 

If he's really got 5 killer albums up his sleeve, then he should consider releasing a couple of them with Nuclear Blast on their terms, tour for a few years and save up some money so that he can start his own label and invest in his own studio. I get that he wants perfection right away, but that's a luxury he cannot afford at the moment - he either has to play by the rules or he gets nothing. Imagine how many bands would have preferred a bigger budget for their first couple of albums? That would be almost all of them. There are plenty of talented musicians who would be more than happy to be in his position. He's signed to the biggest record label in the genre and has already won the critics over. He should have no problem making a good living by touring, but it seems to me he feels entitled to a rich and glamorous lifestyle because he's a talented musician. 

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Magnus, not to forget the rest of the 'swan song' statement a week later.  :)

 

CLEARING FEW THINGS ABOUT MY LAST “REALITY UPDATE”

I feel like I need to explain the situation more clearly as some people seem to be a bit confused. So let´s get more into the details…

Let´s get one thing clear first, I don´t live in a fantasy world. You might say I´m a bit of a perfectionist when it comes to album production. Fine, I´ll give you that. But I do make compromises, lots of them. TIME I was all a huge compromise. The melody guitars are all old modelling amps (not the new Axe-FXs and whatnots which sound pretty decent actually). There simply was not enough budget to record them properly in a professional studio, so they sound pretty horrible and are very hard mix and fit in with the rest of the instruments. The vocals were all recorded in various rehearsal places just with my laptop (the reason why it took so long to record them and also because of the hundreds of vocal tracks I needed to record for these albums). They are certainly not the best quality vocal recordings. Again, another compromise for not having enough budget for a 3rd party professional studio. I also wanted some time to practise my vocals while recording, which I´ve never really done before, but you can hear the improvement. Also I do some of the vocal arrangement work and experiment with different things while recording, this would be impossible in a 3rd party studio. The rhythm guitars were actually recorded in a 3rd party studio, but I didn´t have enough time to craft the sound exactly like I want it. Rhythm guitar is the thing I´m the most perfectionist and passionate about. There´s only a handful of rhythm guitar sounds I like from the millions of heavy metal records out there, so you can imagine how hard it is for me to be able to produce the guitar sound of my dreams in few days in a 3rd party studio. Impossible. And to fit it in with hundreds of orchestration & synth instruments, to not muddy the bass, to be able to scoop the mids so the whole mix doesn't sound like a kitchen radio (I don´t like mids in metal guitars plus the orchestra instruments already eat a lot of the mids space), but still keep the upper mids smooth and not harsh, to not mask the drum overheads, but still having enough modern highs and upper mids attack to have it cut through the mix. This is almost a mission impossible, but I know I could do it in my own time in my own studio... So the time ran out from the studio´s “taximeter” and I was left with unsatisfying guitar sound and very hard to fit in the mix (still had to pay the studio bill though). I was very unhappy about this, but still released the album! The orchestrations were made with just one computer which forced me to use time consuming workarounds and was very stressful. I won´t even get into the technical problems I´ve had to deal with over the years. It took 3 years of sweat and tears to make the orchestrations the way I had to do them. This was the hardest task and it nearly burned me out. Never again this way! I would need a computer farm to do the all the orchestrations in realtime without slow workarounds.

I´ve mixed the albums in my apartment and you ask why it takes so long to mix? Well, because my room is not a professional studio ment for mixing. There´s also always some noise issues inside and outside the building, I´ve had even some scary hearing problems due to this for having to raise the volume and having to mix too loud. Never again! There´s also insane amount of tracks to mix (which is very difficult), but my computer is having hard a time handling them well. Very unstable and slow. But the main thing why the mixing takes so long is because the recorded sounds are pretty crappy due to lack of resources to record them properly. So it´s very hard to "polish a turd", if not impossible. Good sounds would mix themselves! And I won´t even get into other health problems I´ve had due to stress which has slowed the mixing process too (not mental problems, although maybe I´m a bit crazy :P). So again, I simply can´t afford a 3rd party studios to mix in or to record. Not even close. Nuclear Blast gave us just enough budget for only to record the drums, bass and rhythm guitars in 3rd party studio, that´s it. Which all turn out unsatisfying due to lack of time to tweak the sounds right for massive projects like the TIME albums are. That´s why I´ve been struggling with the mixing. All the rest of the instuments, vocals, orchestrations, melody guitars etc... was left up to me to record on my own however possible and getting quality recordings in a "DIY bedroom studio scenario" is not easy. Sure they gave us few additional advances, ´cause we begged them for faster computers and better gear (and all that money has been paid back already), but still not nearly enough for a task like this. The rest have been basically financed by yours truly with touring, merchandise and just simply sacrificing my own time doing lot of workarounds and recording in rehearsal places or where ever I could due to the lack of funding, but I had to make these albums a reality no matter what! But my point is, as you can see, I do make lots of compromises. TIME I is far from perfect, but still released the album! Would a perfectionist do that?

I certainly can make music renting a 3rd party studio for one month and release an album, as I have already proven that many times in the past. But I won´t do that again, that is my decision. I´ve never been happy with those albums and the results I get from 3rd party studios. Waste of money. There simply isn´t enough time (with our budgets) to craft the sounds the way I want them in unfamiliar space with unfamiliar gear, monitors and under the stress of the “studio taximeter" running. It´s usually just, let´s throw a mic there and wish for the best! “We´ll fix it in the mix... maybe!”. Making music makes me happy. The feeling you get when you first get a new idea, a riff, a melody, a vision of the song is a great feeling and you just want to make that vision come out from the speakers exactly like you hear it in your head. Releasing music that doesn't represent that vision and is compromised makes me unhappy. Why continue to do something that makes you unhappy? Those past albums were like demos to me and nothing like the TIME albums or the future material are in their complexity. I just want to get the production right for these albums! I know some people don't care about the production quality that much, but I do. I wouldn´t be able to ever do these albums in 30, 60 or 90 days in a 3rd party studio “like all the other bands do it”. Sorry, but I´m just not that skilled of a human being! I would need to rent a 3rd party studio for a year or two or even three years depending on the project and live there 24/7. But obviously who can afford that? You could invest and build your own studio with that money and make many albums until you die. The main thing that people need to understand is that the TIME albums and my future material are so much more complex to make than my previous albums were and I just can´t continue to do them like I´ve been forced to do them for the past 10 years. I think we´ve all established by now that this isn´t working. You have to also remember, I do these albums basically alone. Produce, record, engineer, sing, play, mix, master, write all the music & lyrics... Who else does that? Anyone in Finland? Anyone in the world? Well maybe Devin Townsend, but he´s ****ing Devin Townsend! I´m just nobody from Konala, Helsinki.

During these years I´ve been already acquiring studio gear and started doing most of the stuff myself and I love it! I´ve gotta pretty good DAW and monitor setup, so basically I got most of the studio gear already. But there´s still one major thing that is missing and that is the studio space. A place to work without interruptions, where I can crank up guitar amps 24/7, 365 days a year without the neighbors calling the cops, to record and practise my singing everyday, to record drums and so on… Having everything always set up ready to record and to mix night or day in a good mixing room would speed up the whole process immensely. It would be also great for the whole band, ´cause we´d have our own rehearsal room for the first time, sort of “Wintersun headquarters”. This would really free us to make albums much faster with better quality and able us to tour more often, which then would open the possibilities financially to other things like upgrading our live shows, doing ten minute music videos for our long songs, a live DVD maybe even with a real orchestra...

It is a fact that without Nuclear Blast I couldn´t have gotten where I am today and I'm certainly grateful of that, but they have really made the most money of Wintersun. What have I made? Well I´ve gotten some better equipments to do my job which is nice, but I´m still struggling and I´m missing the main pieze of the puzzle, the actual "work place”, which is a huge roadblock to continue forwards. I´m in a dead end. All my money has always gone straight to the album productions. I don´t go on vacations, I don´t have a car or anything fancy, which I´m totally fine with! I work and do these albums basically for free and that would be actually fine with me, if I could do my work at least in good conditions. I´ve been struggling and I´ve sacrificed everything for over 10 years and gotten pretty much nothing out of it, except the love and support of the fans, which I appreciate very much!

But to continue to make more albums, I need my own studio. I´ve had enough making albums in rehearsal places and in a bedroom studios, it just doesn´t work. Enough is enough. I´ve reached the breaking point. I don´t owe Nuclear Blast or anyone anything. I don´t have to make or release albums. I don´t have to release TIME II, if I´m not happy with it. I can make music (demos) just for myself for fun and just show them to my closest friends. Or I can do something else, for example teaching like Kai and Teemu... doing anything else I would actually earn some money. I will continue to always make music like I did before any record deals, but whether I will release the music depends totally whether I can record and mix it properly. I´ve made piece with myself that if I won´t be able to ever release another album again and I have to take my songs to the grave, that is ok with me, but I do not wish it. Nuclear Blast and everyone around me has made profits of Wintersun and all my debts are paid. So no harm done. Where to go from here? The future is unknow.

I must point out that our manager is a really good guy. Always has our best interest at heart, he actually gave me a big personal loan to finish TIME I. I couldn´t have done it without him! He actually renegotiated a better Nuclear Blast deal for me after the TIME I release. I´m actually ok with the new deal. Except for the fact that I can´t make albums, because they won´t fund them enough for me to actually be able to make them and at the same time they are denying me doing a Wintersun crowd funding which probably would finance the studio. So they are really holding us hostage. Our manager actually renounced himself from the crowd funding and won´t have any part in it unless I want his help. He wants to see Wintersun succeed. The problem is still the same though, without enough funding there won´t be Wintersun albums. And I´m pretty sure I would not be able to gather enough finances on my own with just “Jari Mäenpää´s studio crowd funding” without any meaningful perk like TIME II high quality album download for example. It would have to be a big Wintersun campaign with a team of people helping me to realise this dream. But I will try to figure something out, I´m not giving up!

TIME II is now in a good place mixwise. I´m pretty happy with the drums, bass & the orchestrations. The whole thing is sounding so much more powerful and clear than TIME I. Really proud of what I´ve been able to achieve with these “not so perfect" recordings and with the intense orchestra layers. It´s so difficult to mix stuff like this, especially with my mixing conditions. But I won´t ruin the hard work I´ve done so far by throwing a crappy guitar sound on top ruining the whole mix. That´s one compromise I won´t make anymore. And I won´t be spending anymore money for 3rd party studios either. I will save and invest every penny for my own studio. Actually for those who complained not hearing the guitars enough on TIME I, the guitars were left purposely little bit back in the mix, because they were so crappy. Or those who critized the production otherwise, now you know the reason why it wasn´t top notch quality. No money = demo quality. And for those who doubted me having written already 5 albums worth of new material, I´ve written actually more. That was just a conservative estimate.

Bottom line, if people want me to make music and release Wintersun albums, I need enough funding for my personal studio where I can craft my music, record and produce my sounds in piece. It is as simple as that. I can´t make this complex music any other way anymore. I am just one man with limited resources and limited skills. I can´t magically pull albums from thin air. Maybe other bands can do their albums “the usual way” renting a 3rd party studio for one month and are happy with the results, I certainly respect that! I´ve been there, done that. I know that many metal bands have all got their own hardships and I am not certainly underrating anyone´s situation. But every situation is unique and mine certainly is. I´ve seen some comments saying that “You don´t deserve your own studio, because other bands don´t get to have their own studio either and you should just do your music like everyone else does it!”. Would it be somehow bad for the other bands if I would build my own studio? Would it somehow hurt the other bands, if I could make more Wintersun albums in my own way? Or are these comments just based on jealousy or something? “What makes you so special to get your own studio?” Nothing and maybe I don´t deserve it, but that is for the fans & financiers to decide and I know there´s lots of dedicated fans that want to support us! It really isn´t about who deserves what. I´m just saying what I can and can´t do. I have my own way of doing things. Sorry, if my previous update sounded like whining or somehow entitled for some of you, it wasn’t ment to be. I am just trying to illustrate the difficult situation I´m in. I definitely understand the realities of life. The crowd funding was actually suggested and brought to my attention by the fans. In fact people have been wanting donate to us since the debut album, but we don't feel very good about it. We always would like to give something back. That's why we make merchandise for example. I admit that I´m a little bit frustrated with the situation, but I´m fine with whatever outcome. But if someone finds it offensive that I´m looking for funding for my studio project and for the Wintersun albums, then they got some personal problems. Most of the comments have been really encouraging, supportive and positive though and I appreciate that!

Currently I´m negotiating with Nuclear Blast and our manager how we could make this work for all parties… We´ll see if we can work this out.

I certainly hope that we´ll find a solution, so we can release more Wintersun albums and share them with the world. It is my dream and passion to make music and it makes me happy to see that so many people care about Wintersun. I´m very grateful!!! All your supportive posts have given me lot of hope and I´m certainly not quitting the fight!

Thank you and thanks for listening!

Jari

p.s. Everyone enjoying their popcorn?


Source: https://www.facebook.com/wintersun?ref=br_tf

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He makes it sound like hard work is wasting his time, that he's doing the world a favour by sharing his talent and shouldn't have to treat being a musician like a full-time job.

 

"The rest have been basically financed by yours truly with touring, merchandise and just simply sacrificing my own time doing lot of workarounds and recording in rehearsal places or where ever I could due to the lack of funding, but I had to make these albums a reality no matter what! But my point is, as you can see, I do make lots of compromises. TIME I is far from perfect, but still released the album!"

 

It's like he wants people to give him a pat on the back for doing his job. Being a full-time musician isn't a cakewalk.'

 

And he still wants others to pay for his studio.

 

"Except for the fact that I can´t make albums, because they won´t fund them enough for me to actually be able to make them and at the same time they are denying me doing a Wintersun crowd funding which probably would finance the studio. So they are really holding us hostage."

 

It's sad to see that he seems so full of himself. Time 1 was great. Compromising is a good source for creative solutions. I don't think I've ever heard anyone but himself complain about the quality on that album. He must come to terms with the fact that some of the work will have to be done at home and make the work of the band a priority when in a studio. Like he said, he's not using a real orchestra and all that can be arranged at home using his DAW. You cannot go into a studio without preparations.

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Seriously, this guy should just get a reality check. Do he really need to have his OWN studio for making an album? There is plenty of bands/artists/musicans out there making albums with a lot of layers and complex compositions and I don't see them complaning about their computers, apartments or studio space. It just happens that you have to make an effort to find something that suits your preferences and space, it won't just slip into your hands. I'm sure NB would happily help him out with renting a studio. Also, he talks like his music is The-Opus-Prime-and-perfection of all music and it's, even though it's subjectiv, absolutely not. He's living in his own comfy bubble, for sure. 

 

I loved the first album and Time I was lovely, but I'm starting to get a strong distaste for Wintersun in general and I can't say I'm any excited for their new music anymore. 

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