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  1. 5 points
    @Hevein It's just music - which is just life itself. But seriously, how this can hit a younger person involves self-identity. You hear a work and feel like this was something you always believed, but here is someone saying it so much better. You're drawn in... passion is a natural outcome! Then the rest of life happens. You're creating and facing your own dreams and troubles, not living those of others. Maybe "just music" and other passions get pushed aside or throttled back. And there's not so much time to be an adoring fan. For me, passion for music has always had an element of personal risk. Watching Nightwish and especially Floor perform has helped with an already building new relationship to this passion. Yes it can hurt, but at this point in life I can take it. I can trust in that and fully engage. Hard to properly express how grateful I am!
  2. 4 points
    10 years later, it happened once again. Too obvious, but enjoyable as the first time
  3. 3 points
    Another blast from the past! Nightwish was featured in Finnair's Blue Wings magazine in 2002. Scans on Facebook, translation below: Nightwish’s Metallic Daydreams Blending operatic vocals, synthesizer, flute, choir, strings, and spoken word, heavy metal band Nightwish has shot from small-town Finnish Karelia to global success. Now the group faces some tantalising decisions. “We've got this huge, bombastic, almost corny sound," says Tuomas Holopainen, founder, songwriter, and keyboardist of Finnish metal band Nightwish. Corny it may be, but that sound — call it Kate Bush-meets-Deep Purple — has made them one of the most successful Finnish rock bands ever, second only to European stars HIM. At the heart of the sound are two young classically trained musicians with huge potential: lead vocalist Tarja Turunen, 25, and multi-instrumentalist Holopainen, who turns 26 on Christmas Day. Six years ago on that holiday, their lives fatefully linked in their small hometown of Kitee, near the Russian border. "I knocked on Tarja's door, handed her a demo tape and asked her to get in touch if she was interested," says Holopainen. "She said 'yes' almost right away. We'd known each other since we were 13. Tarja's always been like a sister to me and the other guys in the band," adds Holopainen, quashing any suspicions of intra-band romance. Holopainen's keyboards and Turunen's vocals are unusual in metal. Backed by a more familiar guitar-bass-drum trio, they've created an unmistakable sound. Live or in the studio, the sound of Nightwish in high gear is a take-it-or-leave-it proposition. A sound this massive and piercing leaves no middle ground —and sends some listeners rushing to switch radio stations. For hundreds of thousands around the world, though, it inspires near-worship. From Santiago to Seoul That sound conjures up images from the blockbuster movie Titanic: a gigantic metal machine ploughing through a stormy night world of tragedy, while a female figure spreads her arms at the bowsprit, soaring above it all. The night is the black world portrayed in Holopainen's lyrics, the hull and engine are the band's guitars and rhythm section, and the female figurehead is of course Turunen. Like Titanic, Nightwish is at heart a spectacle for the young masses. And it has found its masses: from Japan to Russia and Latin America, where the band's hotel was often besieged by passionate young fans. In Brazil, where the band has toured twice, there's a cover band that plays only Nightwish songs. The band's fourth and biggest-selling album, Century Child, also brings Titanic to mind with the power ballad “Forever Yours." One of Nightwish's biggest hits, it echoes Celine Dion's theme from the movie, with swelling strings and haunting tin whistle. "Forever Yours" showcases the progress Holopainen and Turunen have made since Nightwish's fumbling 1997 debut. He has become an assured composer and a better lyricist. Meanwhile her seven years of classical training are evident in her new-found sensitivity. Turunen began with liturgical music at Helsinki's Sibelius Academy. For more than a year now, she's been studying chamber music at the University of Music Karlsruhe in southern Germany, near the French border. "I enjoy singing a lot more now than I did six years ago," she says. "The colours and range of my voice have been increasing, which makes it more fun to sing. And the training with Nightwish has made me and my voice stronger. I've been lucky enough to enter the worlds of both of both rock and classical.” Those worlds collided when Turunen attended the Sibelius Academy. The constant band activities and her sudden celebrity-status — her image was splashed across every bus shelter — were a serious distraction from her studies. So in September 2001 she moved to Germany, throwing the band's future into doubt. Since then Turunen and Holopainen say that she has found a balance between her contrasting worlds — at least for now. This year, she took time off to record Century Child and complete an around-the-world tour, which took the band to 16 countries. For now, the band's future plans are on hold for at least a year, with the exception of two German dates in January and a few festivals next summer. "The rumour that Tarja is leaving the band has been blown out of proportion," says Holopainen. "She's not leaving, she's just taking a break to concentrate on her studies. She's more motivated than ever." Catching the Third Wave The author of a new book on Finnish metal, Jone Nikula, sees trouble down the road for Nightwish. "The question of Tarja leaving will come up as she has operatic ambitions," he says. "Nightwish is Holopainen's band, he's the musical genius behind it. But it's hard to imagine anyone else filling Tarja's PVC outfits!" Nikula, rock radio impresario and manager of glam rock legend Hanoi Rocks, has just published a history of Finnish metal titled Iron Age ("Rauta-aika"). "Nightwish represents the third wave of modern Finnish metal, along with HIM, and Children of Bodom," he says. "They've all had an international approach from day one. When they came up, the infrastructure they needed was already in place, all the managers, promoters, labels, and so on. "Nightwish isn't easy to categorise, though. They're definitely old-school European metal. But the instrumentation is more innovative, and Tarja gives it flavour. I'd describe them as melodic heavy metal with a strong Teutonic influence." Holopainen calls their latest album "Wagnerian." And the Germans seem to agree. Europe's biggest music market snapped up over 15,000 copies of the band's Sleeping Sun EP within a month. Bulwarked by this German popularity, their breakthrough album Wishmaster sold 170,000 copies. And in less than half a year, Century Child has shifted 300,000 units — pushing the band's sales well past the half-million mark. Dungeons and Dragons Still, success in the English-speaking world has eluded them, as it has every other Finnish rock band. Listeners find unintentional humour in some of Nightwish's lyrics and pronunciation, especially their earliest efforts. Turunen, too, has had trouble with some of Holopainen's lyrics, which are spiced with eroticism, Biblical references, and sword-and-sorcery fantasy. "On the older albums, some of the words were very naive and funny, descriptions of nature and the deeper emotions of a young man who hadn't yet experienced much in life yet," she says. "Still, Tuomas has always been very honest with his music and with his words. And with each album he's making progress in expressing himself. The covers and lyrics are full of fantasy, but the music is very emotional. There's mystery and magic in Nightwish's music." For Holopainen, it was natural to write in English. "Somehow it doesn't sound as corny as when I write in Finnish — at least to me!" he says, laughing. Still, that word comes to mind when listening to some of the lyrics, which are a Tolkienesque blend of heroism and heartache. Ditto for the twee New Agey album cover artwork, an irony-free zone peopled with warriors and wizards, seductresses, and swans. "There's always been an element of schoolboy humour in heavy metal," notes Nikula. "But irony is very difficult to pull off, especially for a metal band." Epiphany in Kansas City Holopainen, who writes virtually all of the material, played piano as a child, moving on to saxophone. He also played clarinet for 10 years before graduating from music college. The epiphany of his musical life came unexpectedly. "When I was 15, I was an exchange student in the U.S. My host family took me to see Metallica and Guns N' Roses in Kansas City. From then on, I was hooked." Turunen, meanwhile, has conflicting feelings about heavy metal and rock in general. Despite obvious affection for her colleagues in Nightwish, other Finnish bands and their fans, she insists, "I'm really no 'rock chick.'" Rock and a Hard Place She prefers Brahms, Schumann, and Rachmaninov, and singers such as Anne-Sofie von Otter and Renee Fleming. Turunen's decision to go to Germany was a clear statement that classical is more important than rock — regardless of Nightwish's runaway success. That move suggests strength of character and artistic will. Yet is she ready to toss in this glamorous and potentially lucrative job for a much shakier future in the classics? Or could she balance both? Sure, Montserrat Caballe and Luciano Pavarotti have dabbled in rock, but only after achieving mega-stardom as classical performers. For an up-and-coming singer, wearing two hats could be difficult. Realising this, Turunen says, "If you get a job in an opera house, you just can't run here and there with a rock band and do your opera work at the same time." Whether Nightwish's star will quit the band is a hotly debated topic by fans on the band's official website (there are also at least 30 fan sites). They also speculate on whether she will marry an Argentinean who appears briefly in the band's DVD film. Turunen receives plenty of propositions, especially from Frenchmen. In Latin America (Nightwish was the first European band to play in Panama), that adulation was overwhelming when fans tried to tear strands of her hair and clothes, and jump on stage to grope her. "Obviously Tarja's a sex symbol," says Nikula, "but she's not just a pin-up girl. Most metal bands with a female singer are more Gothic, or they go for a sort of vixen image. But Tarja's a real frontwoman who has maintained her integrity." "She's really kept her feet on the ground," agrees Holopainen. "She's still the same girl-next-door as she was 15 years ago." Holopainen shakes his head at French and German women who've appeared without warning at his home in remote Northern Karelia or the band's studio in Helsinki, and at fans who fly halfway round the world to attend a Nightwish gig. With devotion like that, the sky should be the limit for the band. Holopainen and Turunen want to try a film score, and quieter, less frenetic music would clearly suit both of them. "Originally I wanted to do acoustic mood music," says Holopainen. "I'm a huge fan of New Age music and film music. "I'm fascinated by musicals, though I've only seen one, The Phantom of the Opera, in London. I'd love to do some kind of big show like that, if only I had the time and money and creativity. With a real orchestra, choir and dancers, maybe at a castle... Hey, Savonlinna is only 80 kilometres from my house!" he adds. For Turunen, a project pushing Nightwish's high-powered rock closer to opera could be just the ticket. And working in the 15th-century Olavinlinna castle would be a flashback to her days in the Opera Festival choir. "That would be just a great experience! The environment in Savonlinna is so beautiful. I spent my greatest school years there, and did some musical theatre in Savonlinna when I was 18 or so." If Savonlinna sows the seeds for a future generation of musical theatre, perhaps someone should approach these melodramatic rockers. The castle would be invaded by a youthful army of musical marauders. And a few of them might even book tickets for the next Wagner production.
  4. 3 points
    Please no. At least not in the cheap sounding cringy way WT uses them.
  5. 3 points
    As far as I remember, Imaginaerum has been recorded in studio, at least all the vocals. But everything except for orchestra and choirs for EFMB has been recorded in summer camp to enhance the feeling of a more band-oriented album. As for the forthcoming album hype, I enjoy the little joy I feel regarding all the waiting of the news, the photos, the feeling we're here at last, at the moment when new album takes shape and is being arranged. I'm a very longtime fan, I started to listen to NW back in 2002 or 2003, so it's been, like, 16-17 years I travel along with this band. Half of my life literally. And I'm no longer an enthusiastic teenager, so it has been a bit hard for me to adjust to this new feeling towards the band, that nowadays, in fact, it is not such an important part of my life, and in the end it's just music. While 10 years ago it felt like passionately following the band, surfing the net for live videos from current tour and interviews, doing a lot of stuff for fanclub and etc, was my primary hobby and a way to spend a lot of time. It's a really strange feeling nowadays, but I still like the fact that there's a new album in the making and I have the desire to wait for it.
  6. 3 points
  7. 2 points
    I love Floor's energy in this performance.
  8. 2 points
    The orchestra Is Nice and all but yeah time for a change. Maybe they can use some electronics like WT.
  9. 2 points
    Cris made a post celebrating the 2° anniversary of Delirium (I guess it was last year, can't remember correctly), and she stated how happy everyone was with the result and all the tours around the world that this album brought about for them. So it'll be quite logical if Black Anima follows the same line as Delirium. I do hope so, cause Delirium was my favourite album of 2016 (and my fav from them, ofc)
  10. 2 points
    ^ I don't see how one negates the other. Their heaviest song (MPG) is at the same time their more orchestral one (well, maybe not the most orchestral, but you get my point). I'd love something like that tbh. Heavy but orchestral at the same time. Sooo why is noone talking about Floor's tatto? I wonder what it could be. I mean, they don't even have final versions of the songs and probably nothing artwork-related and she gets a tattoo about the new album? It must be something she really relates to. OH, the excitement!
  11. 2 points
    Hope they don't use too much orchestra this time, I really want something heavy.
  12. 1 point
    I haven't seen a topic like this and why not have one? Oh, and also feel free to mention the musicians you've met! I'll list just the better known ones: Bon Jovi Scorpions Iron Maiden Roxette Depeche Mode Tarja x6 (from which 1 Christmas concert) Within Temptation x2 Sonata Arctica (x1 so far but another one is coming up this year!) Nightwish x3 Epica Stratovarius Therion Haggard Delain Lacuna Coil Poets of the Fall Xandria (with Manuela Kraller, I'm so glad I caught them with her!) Eluveitie Amaranthe Beyond The Black Edguy Orphaned Land Deathstars Helloween Die Toten Hosen Lacrimosa Pain x2 Negative Indica My Dying Bride Deine Lakaien Omega Edda Cargo x3-4 and Andre Rieu (this one is not like the others but has to be mentioned!) I've met: Tarja x2 (x3 if a press conference counts, and x5 if saying hi on the street counts, lol) Nightwish (Tuomas x2, Marco x2, Emppuu) Poets Of The Fall (Marko Saaresto) Within Temptation (everyone, 2016) Epica (everyone, 2012) / Mark Jansen x3 Sonata Arctica (everyone, 2011) Delain (everyone, 2012) / Charlotte x2 Xandria (everyone, 2013) / Manuela x2 - we were staying at the same hotel, haha Amaranthe (everyone x2, 2013) - same Edguy (everyone except for Tobias, 2013) Deine Lakaien
  13. 1 point
    No, no digo que Floor de alaridos. Pero cualquiera que conoce la carrera de Floor se da cuenta de que en EFMB esta hiper contenida. Sin ir tan lejos como After Forever, su potencial puede verse en sus reversiones de Ever Dream, Ghost Love Score o She is my Sin que a mi punto de vista superaron a las originales gracias a ella y a su voz. Nada de ese potencial se explotó en EFMB. De hecho creo haberlo leido en una entrevista de que fue una decision artística especialmente de Tuomas, con la que Floor estuvo de acuerdo.
  14. 1 point
    Err, I think it was 2012 and 2014. Would've loved to see them in their earlier days, because I love Hybrid Theory and Meteora, the albums after those weren't really my thing.
  15. 1 point
    I will only be satisfied the day Floor sings the whole discography. But kidding, the songs I want to hear more in order are: Beauty of the Beast Escapist Fantasmic Cadence of Her Last Breath Whoever Brings the Night Turn Loose the Mermaids Creek's Mary Blood Eva Rest Calm Walking in the Air I thought about listing Meadows of Heaven, but this song was so well performed by Anette that I also wish it would stay forever in my memory with her voice. Anyway these are one of the rare / forbidden songs that Tuomas avoid performing live to keep its magic, so maybe we won't hear it ever again. Include BBB and MPG on the same list too for obvious reasons (Bye Bye should fit Floor's vocals like a glove, though I can imagine how ridiculously odd it would possibly be for her to sing about Tarja and Nightwish's feud in 2020/21).
  16. 1 point
    2017 according to my googling I love how she makes a devils horns sign for a split second before she realizes she's not at a metal show this time
  17. 1 point
    In case you've missed it: you can actually follow the Summer Camp progress via Tero's Instagram account or Floor Jansen's official newsletter (can't find the link right now, sorry). Or you can check this topic that will be updated by all the forum users, usually info taken from all the people involved in the new album, as the ones mentioned above. Speaking of which, Tero has uploaded some pics from the demo recordings (originally done by Tuomas), the ones they're rehearsing right now with all the band, so they can add their own approach to the songs, work on details and stuff. And he also uploaded a quick video from the camp site with a wonderful view. Floor just told us through her newsletter that she's joining the summer camp very soon:
  18. 1 point
    I don't think JUkka will return. I mean, for him to return, not only would he need to be rid of his problems (for which I've known that sometimes they are permanent), he would also require A LOT of practice. Imagine how much skill he has lost on this five years. He's not in the physical shape the band requires. Perhaps Kai will record the album, tour with them a bit while Jukka regains his skills. But I doubt it. Anyway, I don't mind, I'm a Kai fan.
  19. 1 point
    I was about to vote for Sacrament of Wilderness, but I decided to go for Nemo with that video and everything that this single meant for many fans and bands around the world. I enjoyed Nemo so much before I overplayed it on my old MP3 player and eventually got tired of it. But, yeah, SoW and DSC are also my favourites lead singles following the Nemo-hype.
  20. 1 point
    When other bands might rehearse first and then go into some fancy studio in a big city, Nightwish mixes work and vacation and rehearse and record their albums out in the Finnish wilderness. Work by day, BBQ with your families by night! It has been scientifically proven* that this is a recipe for success, and the band says it helps to keep them inspired. *Source: I say so.
  21. 1 point
    Oh my, the hype is real! I still can't believe that we will hear the new Nightwish album in under a year Just watched the whole Black Mirror series as well and loved it! So it's great to have some understanding of the theme of the album
  22. 1 point
    I'm in the video!!!! \m/ :')
  23. 1 point
    I've been thinking that I'd really like them to play Rest Calm, it's the perfect song for three singers. Floor and Marco could share both harsh and soft vocals in the beginning and then all three of them (along with the children choir on tape) can take turns singing the ending. It could be interesting!
  24. 1 point
    Watched Until Eternity by mistake and now I have that song stuck in my head. I just figured out that I'm actually going to see them live in October because of Epica. Looking forward to it. Their latest song, Snow White and Rose Red sounds pretty cool too.
  25. 1 point
    Some particularly awesome footage from a show I was recently at. It was pretty amazing. The band was on fire! They played After Forever, Epica and Stream of Passion music too, but I haven't seen any uploads of that.
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