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  1. Figment-of-me

    The Floor thread

    Ivo Niehe interview now online, Dutch only. I've started going through this and still don't pick up much of the language. Some ominous comments in response to Floor's YouTube post about what Avrotros "did to" Denise Hofs (@xNishi) - like other than just take the vids down? Come on guys, are you worried about losing out on advertiser views from international viewers? Really? How about include a version with her captions - I'll watch the Dutch ads. They're kind of fun actually! Floor's place is very tasteful. Will see how much I can understand from the interview. https://www.avrotros.nl/tv-show/gemist/detail/item/tv-show-op-reis-floor-jansen-08-12-2019/
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    Decades: Live in Buenos Aires

    wrt @Ahasverus nice post above, less growling and more opera? Not trying to be a little sh**. Just what to get where people are coming from. btw there are some vids of this year's Raskasta Joulua (not official I think) including some operatic Floor moments. I know, not the same thing! [Not the same cast for every show but busy for this time of year! http://www.raskastajoulua.com/]
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    Decades: Live in Buenos Aires

    Had a listen to some of the songs people said could have had softer vocals. To each their own of course but it surprised me the vocals didn't sound particularly aggressive to me at all! About addressing the audience it'd be interesting to hear Floor talk about this. To me it just sounds like she's keeping the energy high to get the crowd pumped. If you listen to especially older interviews where her introverted side comes out more, those tones are there in her regular speaking voice. Anyway the show must have been really fun. Although the huge festivals have their own crazy thing I think this type of venue would suit me better.
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    Decades: Live in Buenos Aires

    This is so strange, the idea Floor's vocals are too harsh with too much growling. I'm thinking, what's wrong with that? It's metal, right? Well it's symphonic metal. Female fronted symphonic metal. Should that matter? A non-metalhead defending it. Confusing. WT, Epica... there are female "sweet" voices. Floor can do sweet. She can do pretty. Maybe she does harsh/hard more than is musically warranted? In After Forever there was basically a full time growl artist and it wasn't her. I think it was often too much, gratuitous. Sometimes I felt it spoiled the song. BZ showed what Floor can do in other ways. I feel the same as whoever said Mama showed the power of her voice. To me so did Shallow. There's more than one kind of power. I think she goes hard because that's what she enjoys. Has she gone more this way over the years? Seems like it. Good chance I'd be with her either way but I suppose it's conceivable at some point I'd no longer like it. Mostly I've realized happy-Floor yields results that lead to happy-me. I'll take that bargain and I'll guess her band mates feel the same way!
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    Nightwish Off Topic

    Chemistry to me implies how they interact. Do they flirt, scowl, dance, tease etc? Yes. Do they like each other. Yes. Does it come across in the music.. yeah you know the pattern. I think their voices are compatible. Part of the art will be creating something meaningful or appealing from the material you're working with. I think they do this too! But their voices don't clash to me. Contrast may be something people enjoy in this music. I do. The "metalness" and heaviness is neither here nor there to me. It works or it doesn't in each context - but I get it's important to many. When Marko sings clean that's a contrast. When it's sweet against harsh etc. The "progginess" is something to me too. Not a verse/chorus/repeat kind of structure. It's more interesting!
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    Nightwish Off Topic

    @Spectre Yes I enjoy those examples. Sure, she can do it - I mean, what can't she do really? For a recent counter example of her not doing it there's Phantom with Henk P. Their duet with her on the high part is really good, then at the end, "inside my mind", he finishes in tempo and she goes off script. Maybe they discussed it before but I doubt it. Too bad we don't see his face - doubt he was upset but I'll guess he wore a "what the *bleep*" expression, even if just for an instant. This is really subtle, but they don't end together where clearly they should. At least to me they should. Here's what I think happens: Floor gets carried away in the moment. The inspiration is flowing and she just goes with it. It's one of the things that makes her a delightful soloist, so why would I complain? It's just that with a second it can feel out of place. There are multiple examples of her and Marko timing the same lyrics differently while singing them together, and also of them not ending together. Does anyone care? Maybe not but it's true. I've put that more on poor Marko. Floor can probably match him. Can he do it? I think yes with effort/attention. No-one has to believe me but I do assert that being a good accompanist is not automatic, even if you're musical. It is a skill you have to work on. In classical ensemble and orchestral playing this is essential and there is a well understood set of precedence from soloist+conductor to concert master and principals and cascading down through the sections. You're coordinating many moving parts and there just has to be a system - unless you like the thrill of the entire thing falling apart mid performance. Does that apply to rock? Maybe not in that way. But when we say, "that band is tight" it shows it is valued. Nightwish often synchs with a backing track or even fireworks. The timing has to be strict. So what about Floor's rubato? As a soloist she does a great job and locks back in with the continuing in tempo parts in the right place. It's cool and I love it! Just I'd love it more if both singers did the same in duet sections. Wrote too much already but as to being overpowered this is so familiar! I'll swear if it weren't for those damned musicologists you could poach some great melodies from, say, a Beethoven symphony. There are sections that no-one but the composer and those who've played it have ever heard before because they're consistently overplayed by louder instruments. Even when the pros do it! Horns, we love you guys!
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    The Floor thread

    In-ear monitors: the musician's new fashion accessory. Should I be investing before this goes viral?
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    The Upcoming Nightwish Album

    Too bad "Deathwish" is already taken. They'll go waaay heavier and sport new souped up hotrods and muscle cars... They'll fight over who Floor will ride with but she'll just smirk and ride solo. They've already got the new gang "colours". B&W makes a good statement (or maybe sepia) and when they tag your place you'll need to call an interpreter to get it sorted out.
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    The Upcoming Nightwish Album

    Perfect! Thank you! Is she going for The Most Decorated Singer award?
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    Nightwish Off Topic

    ^ Without knowing who would be best in this context I do feel it's not a strength of hers. Some don't like to hear any criticism of Floor and it should be clear I adore her from a music perspective (she's pretty great all around from what I can tell). She doesn't always lock or blend with her partner. You can rightly say (and I have) that she's the principal and it's the others' task to blend with her. True but it works best with everyone pulling together. And just to be clear, this is a nit pick. What she's doing is already great!
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    The Floor thread

    Just about any music teacher will tell you the same. Probably good advice for most learning. More often but not so long. The guy who buys that new treadmill and goes at it for an hour the first time isn't likely to ever use it again. So the time some soloists put it before a show is a puzzle to me. Within two weeks they go from meh to amazing. Granted they're really skilled and may already have played the work before. It still doesn't seem fair?
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    The Floor thread

    Interesting. Well don't know about "people" but I'm pretty sure she's human. Maybe literally a muse though..
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    The Upcoming Nightwish Album

    Born Undying or Birth Undying. Too weird? Oh wait, it's not gonna be B.U. Right?
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    The Floor thread

    Speculation is that Rey could exist because of huge imbalance that needed to be addressed. Floor exists to bring light and meaning to our empty lives...
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    The Upcoming Nightwish Album

    Then it could be: Broken Up or just Break-Up. No, let's not go there! Bad Understanding Broken Universe/Bright Universe Bright Unity/Broken Unity Big Ultimate You know, somehow I don't think it's the album initials...