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About Undertow

  • Birthday 06/18/1987

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    Movies/series, music, books, video games, technology, science, space, nature, history.


  • How Did You Discover Nightwish
    First time I looked them up was around 2004. A classmate was talking about NW and I got curious about what kind of music it was. I think it was Nemo and WIHAA that first went into my random playlist. It took me a few years to discover most of their discography though, but it eventually changed my interest and taste in music!
  • How Many Times Seen Live?
    Still not seen them live.
  • Most Memorable NW Memory
    The release of Imaginaerum and the radio premiere of Storytime, because it was the first ever album release I was really excited for.
  • Most Prized Nightwish Item
    Imaginaerum album because it's the first NW album I bought.
  • Best Live Song
    I've discovered how awesome Devil & the Deep Dark Ocean is with the Decades live version!
  • Favourite Album
    I think Imaginaerum must be the most special to me.
  • Favourite Song
    That one song which really captures every aspect of NW.
  • Favourite Album/Single Artwork
  • Favourite Music Video
    The Islander
  • Favourite DVD
    Vehicle of Spirit
  • Least Favourite Album
    Once, despite having songs I really like.
  • Least Favourite Song

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  1. About the instrumental versions. I love them. The orchestral versions too. I'm sad they won't release the Once instrumental, I was hoping they would at some point. I'm still hoping we some day will get a full orchestral version for Dark Passion Play. And no, I'm not using them for karaoke. I just like listening to them. Sometimes it's nice to just enjoy the music without any vocals ..or any band I guess.
  2. About Troy "stealing" Emppu's solo. Is there even usually an Emppu solo at the end of Nemo? Isn't it just a live addition with Troy, like in some other songs as well? I can't hear it in the studio version at least. It's a nice live addition if you ask me (like with Floor's vocalisation at the end), and not taking anything away from Emppu that he would normally have played. And there's a reason for Troy to be on the stage without necessarily playing just pipes (and bouzouki!).
  3. I decided not to listen to anything yet and take the chance that I like it and listen to it all for the first time when the album is out. From what I've read, it looks like something I'm going to enjoy. Less than a week and I'll know. Have to say I'm looking forward to it. I really enjoyed Scrooge. I like Nightwish both with and without metal, so I'm optimistic.
  4. ^ Agreed. Loving Pip Williams arrangements on the albums, but these new arrangements sound somewhat fresh and different. I like it a lot too. This is just speculation. Maybe they recorded those orchestrations when they recorded Auri? Now, I haven't listened to any of the Auri songs yet, so I don't know if they contain any orchestral arrangements.
  5. ^ Sounds great! And there's bouzouki in it too. Not many seem to mention the bouzouki, it's always about them pipes.
  6. Right. It's been a while since I posted anything. So hello again! I can understand both camps, as I am in both. I love the orchestral sound, but I also love the pre-orchestral sound with all the awesome synthesizers. They give the music a really unique sound. Especially when listening to the remastered version of the old songs, which btw are great, I'm thinking that an orchestra would fit right into these songs as much as the new songs that have them. That's not to say I wish they had orchestra instead. I love them as they are. However, I wouldn't mind re-recordings with the current line-up and the orchestral treatment the live songs seem to have gotten. I like to listen to the instrumental and orchestral versions, of the albums that have them, as much as the regular versions. One doesn't replace the other, and that's what I'm thinking about re-recordings also. I get the idea of leaving the past as it is though (Except for remasters! Please remaster the whole catalogue! ) and rather release live versions instead. So, here's hoping for another live release from this tour! As for backing tracks. I'm kind of in both camps there too. I like the new orchestral additions. They are tastefully done and not overwhelming. Kind of makes me wish for how their next album will sound. A good mix between synthesizers and a more toned down orchestra. Much in the vein of Century Child really. I get the idea of live music being live, but I think most of the songs would sound very stripped down and empty without any backing orchestra tracks. As for the old songs that don't have orchestra. I don't know, would they be able to play them live without any backing synthesizer tracks? I'm not a musician, but the songs have so many layers of sounds and instruments it must be hard to play it all? I would rather have some backing tracks to hear the songs in their full dynamics rather than them being stripped down. Oh yeah. Awesome setlist! Looking forward to keep following this tour and which songs they will play and keep playing and how much they will improve over time.
  7. I'm intrigued. I already wasn't expecting any new Nightwish album before 2019 at the earliest (though 2020 looks more likely to me), so if anything this just lessens the wait some alongside the Decades tour. I really like the Scrooge album, so if we'll get a new side project in between the new NW albums, I'm for that. I'm with the belief that it's important that the creative mind(s) of the band gets to do side projects if that's something their creative outlet calls for. To be locked into only writing for the band and having to always fit into that frame, might lessen the quality and enthusiasm for the music more so than spending some of the creativity and ideas on other projects. Especially if they wouldn't fit the band's frame (which already is quite wide) anyway. The same idea goes for NW music as well. Sure, we're all allowed to have wishes and preferations for how we wish their sound to be, but essentially I think it's more important the band do what they want to do and feel like, rather than just trying to do what fans want. That might mean some no longer will care for their music, but that's how it is I guess. I'm hoping for many quality albums from NW in the future. Old style, new style, experimental style. There's probably gonna be some hit and miss to some ears regardless, but as long as the spirit is there - that is what's important. Not saying they should not listen at all, but they should do so with a healthy mindset. We did get better mixing on EFMB after all, and in my opinion Vehicle of Spirit sounds way better than Showtime, Storytime as well. Now, here's looking forward to Spring 2018 I say. This album AND Decades tour! By the way. It doesn't say anything about featuring any orchestra, just guest musicians.
  8. Really enjoying the new album as well!
  9. I've had one listen to the album. It's a lot to take in. It felt very progressive and theatrical. Great vocals from Dianne. She really got to show her versatility on this album, and not to mention theatrical skills. I'm left with the feeling that I haven't quite heard anything like this. Sure, they might borrow some elements from others, but overall it sounded fresh and different to my ears. I'm intrigued to listen again, so that is very promising! Anyway, that's a few thoughts after just one listen. Will need to listen several more times to form a proper opinion. Edit: I might have been influenced by the title track in the end as it was quite something else I thought. And it's what was freshest in mind!
  10. I haven't listened to Ayreon before, but this song is.. interesting! I like the video with the commentary.
  11. Hmm. I like the first song more than this one after just one listen. It's actually not very memorable or catchy to me. But that can change with more listens! Edit: Listened a few more times. Yep. Catchy.
  12. Really great and fresh interview. What Troy said about doing whatever they feel like doing and what he said about the overall spirit within the band makes me very happy and hopeful towards the future of the band. This is what makes the spirit of their music. We the fans can of course have our own wishes and expectations towards their future works and discuss this amongst ourselves, but in the end the most important thing to me is that they do what they truly want to. The meaning behind Vehicle of Spirit is also really nice. Makes a good title when you know the meaning behind it. I know some want more metal and some want less metal. I say keep defying the category and do whatever suits the song. If it's more then it's more, if it's less then it's less. I really liked the Wembley version of The Greatest Show on Earth with Troy playing the electric guitar in the intro. That's one wish I have for the future, more melodic guitar like that. It's a fresh sound to Nightwish. A bit Pink Floydish perhaps? It's the diversity in their music that is great, and the multi instrumentalist Troy is a great addition with that in mind. And also.. keep on experimenting! Like they did for instance with Slow, Love, Slow.
  13. Oh I am sorry for missunderstanding you. Taking pictures of CDs and DVDs has almost become a little force habbit of mine during the past years. But you are right, there are probably people who have gotten different versions and want to see the difference. There are also possibly people who don't order until they know the sound quality and what the product looks like. Nice that you also managed to get yours in time. I hope it arrived undamaged. You will be in for a treat when you have the time to watch it all. I was impressed with CDON for delivering it on time and in the mailbox. The only bad part is that one of my its corners were a bit damaged, but it is not a big deal because it happens all the time for me. I am done with the first show and had begun watching Tampere. I had not seen a single clip from Wembley and Tampere and this is all new to me. I have seen fan recordings from some of the extras before, but not from all of them. So far there is no clear favorite, both are nice visually in their own way. I like that they look different. So far there is only one thing bothering me... No smoke in the opening of Amaranth? What kind of a condescending ape is this?! All is good then, and you're right! I've been satisfied with CDON. I used to order from Mad Supply and Nightwish shop before that, but tried CDON for the EFMB release. I would have gotten it on time had it been sent as a package, but it was sent as letter mail and the earbook didn't fit my mail box and I had to wait a day or so extra. This time they sent it as a package and no issues. Delivered on time. Great to see positive feedback. Can't wait!
  14. Oh, I'm really sorry. I didn't mean for you to take pictures for me. I meant if someone did so, that they would please put it in spoiler so I and perhaps others like me wouldn't have it spoiled before opening our own copies. I guess I was a little unclear when I put it in the same post as I was replying to you. Sorry about that. However that said. I'm certain there are others with a different version, or just wanting a sneak peek, who will appreciate having a look . So, thank you anyway for taking the time to do so! Good that your copy arrived on time. Mine did too. Just need to pick it up from the post office, then count the days until Christmas before opening it up! One more week..
  15. Same here. I like it too after first listen. I'd say based on this song I'm optimistic towards the new album without the old song writer.