DownHill

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  1. @some_dude_on_the_interwebs The best part? She organizes fashion shows and needed to find some epic sounding music for the intro. She DID use this song.
  2. I remember showing the Rise of Sodom and Gomorrah to my mom because she wanted some inspiration and she was like "... is that her actual voice? Like, for real???" I think Martina is freaking amazing here and this video will always have a special place in my heart because this is how I got my first contact with Therion, almost 14 years ago.
  3. Ok ok, no need to talk like a medieval fantasy evil overlord Just your use of nobody seemed very sarcastic. Which again, if one likes top hats, fine, wear them, I will just think it's totally not suitable for symphonic metal with lyrics about something dark and evil and needlessly sexual.
  4. I made it very clear that I personally have had issues with their aesthetics, not that the aesthetics are objectively bad. Except for the album cover, that thing is nasty and scary. It's very normal for people to discuss a band's aesthetics (and not a hat lol did you miss my other examples?) when the band is applying that aesthetics to their image and look. I am just tired of artificial made-up aesthetics, and Therion does not, in my head, fit well with steam-punk.
  5. @Werewolf Yeah but that was like 2 decades ago, it makes sense. But now? I love their music but I have had lots of issues lately with their aesthetics; Chris's outfits and top hat, the overly sexual/deviant/pervert style (it's 2017, it's not shocking anymore, just get your sexual revolution over with), the pseudo steampunk which has no connection with the music... Na, thanks.
  6. I am a big fan of Therion, but this album cover is outright horrible. I couldn't believe my eyes when I saw it on my Facebook feed. It's like a really really bad graphic designer's project; one that got an F on it. This is the band that has given us the covers of Lemuria, Gothic Kabbalah. I know I'm being too dramatic about this, but I can't believe that this is Therion.
  7. Now that I've had lots of time to listen to the full album, I can say it's easily my favorite Moonspell album. There is only one song which I don't like, which is 1 de Novembro, and I am not that crazy about Lanterna Los Afogados, but it still reminds me a bit of the atmosphere of Extinct. The new album has many elements of gothic and epic metal, even some times a tiny bit of power metal, but never enough to become cheesy or lose its darkness. In fact, it touches melodic death metal levels of darkness and emotions. There are also many cases of oriental elements, which somehow blend with the rest without seeming out of place. I think Ruinas is my favorite song on the album, a mid-tempo oriental song with excellent use of keyboard parts. Todos os Santos was the first song that I heard, with a very strange reaction in me: I found the Portuguese to be very funny-sounding (I originate from Greece, and sung Portuguese sounds very much like Greek but in a strange way) but the music was incredible. Now I think it's one of the best songs on the album. Especially the repetition of "... todos os santos não chegaram..." ("all saints were not enough") gives a vibe of despair, a mourning about all the pain and loss. I feel the choice to sing entirely in Portuguese was brilliant, as the themes would not work as well in English, and it is a breath of individuality, even if it takes a bit of time to get used to it. I also find the production of be of excellent quality, less polished than Extinct but some would find Extinct to be too polished and not gritty enough, so that is a good thing. As a final note, I need to commend on the artwork. Moonspell's latest 4-5 albums have had amazing artwork. 1755, Extinct, Alpha Noir, Night Eternal, they all have beautiful artworks.
  8. I guess I understand what you're saying, I mean I'm listening to After Forever as we speak and yes, everything is built around the vocals, which get the most attention. It is a matter of figuring out if we want a Nightwish formation with a good, reliable singer, or basically Floor to be separate and do her own thing. Don't get me wrong, Floor is still an elemental force live, she commands so much respect with her presence and her abilities, but in Nighwish she is somehow... bland?
  9. Oh I meant she looks like her lol But her voice also kind of reminds me of Anette. But nothing more in terms of talent, range, technique etc, as I don't know her. Edit: I know nothing about techniques or whatever but I am definitely not impressed by that live video, sorry. Not her fault really, the band sounds horrible, doesn't do her any justice.
  10. I'm sorry guys but if I didn't know that this track is new, I would have sworn that I'm listening to River of Tuoni. The lyrics are beyond silly, they are Rhapsody of Fire in Emerald Sword levels of power metal silly. The guitars are practically non-existent, makes me wonder if they forgot to plug it in, and the title of the album... "Darkness of Eternity"? Really? Don't tell me you don't get Rhapsody vibes from that. ps. The singer is totally Anette 2.0
  11. I will have to agree with @WhiteLagoon here. This is my confession, and I am pretty sure it has been covered already, but I am listening to Ayreon (specifically Age of Shadows/We Are Forever) and it made me feel that I miss when Floor used to sound like that. Now, I know that having her sing like that will only enhance the comparisons with Tarja and her era and will feel like turning back to that type of symphonic metal, but man I feel she is so underused in EFMB. You have a very versatile, powerful singer, why not let her shine? (no pun for Anette intended )
  12. I love the song, i'm listening it on repeat right now, and I want to like the video as well, but why did they only have a budget of 5 dollars, a bucket of white paint, and a Kat von D lipstick? With the music and the aesthetics, I think she's trying to be the new Myrkur, just a teensy bit more Christmas-y and zero Nordic, but you get the idea.
  13. (Mod note: this topic was created from the discussion sparked in the Who should replace Anette? topic. Posts which were partly on that topic remained there. -- Cursarion) Actually no, there are singers out there that don't need to wear mini skirts and have photo shoots with their legs spread open, to make a career. We are on a forum of a band that made it with the singer showing minimum skin. I don't detest looks, I detest showing off looks. It's another thing to airbrush wrinkles to look good and another to have the singer crawling on the floor like a stripper. What I detest is the mere focus on looks and not talent. Btw Liv is a poor example since she has made her band herself and with Theatre her looks was not all that obvious, so the "chosen for looks" is not suitable here. I don't accept blaming it on the fanbase, simply because there are bands that don't need looks to have a career. There are men that like seeing thighs and legs and there are men who don't really care. And also there are women. Edit: Btw, I didn't say "everything I detest in female-fronted metal bands", I said "in this kind of singers". Which is, focusing on looks, wearing tiny little clothing, and presenting their "sexiness" as if we should care.
  14. Ok ok ok, let me be more specific, you are right. Now, some weeks ago I was lucky to be invited for a dinner in a very distinguished restaurant, where I tried an Argentinian Malbec. It was amazing, it was divine. A week later, I tried to buy a similar wine from a deli. It was not exactly the same, it was cheaper and not a pure Malbec. I liked it better. I could taste that it was not as refined and delicate, but I liked it better. Now, the authentic Malbec was superior to the second bottle I tried. I though do not consider myself superior for tasting and recognizing the difference, or inferior for liking the second one more. I hope this makes sense
  15. But you are also mixing two different things. Taste and recognition are two different things. I can recognize that filet mignon is definitely better than chicken sausage, but I might actually like the latter. I can recognize that wine is so much better and refined than schnapps but I can still prefer, or have a taste for, the latter, and there is nothing inferior or superior about that. I can recognize that Nicki Minaj is not Beethoven and still have a better taste for Minaj, simply because taste and preference has nothing to do with superiority. Hell, one can even like both just the same, as I do. Now, Beethoven has contributed to music, culture, and humanity in general more than Minaj, or the Beatles, or all of our contemporary artists. In this sense, he is superior. The people who like his music are not. They just happen to like it.
  16. I disagree because there is something simply called circumstances. Not every one is born or raised with the same chances for bettering themselves in taste. And when all is said and done, neither a Beatles fan or non-fan will make a difference simply by having what we decide is "higher tastes". It's all socially constructed anyway. I don't care or feel superior or inferior for liking or not liking things. I only feel people are inferior/superior for their consequential choices. Choices which have consequences in people's lives.
  17. @hunebedbouwer I have no idea what this is but he was generally not the most up-to-date person with new releases or such. I know that he liked the Beatles because his father likes the Beatles too and took him to see Paul McCartney when he was very very small. I think this is very sweet and open, to like something because it connects you with your childhood and beloved people around you. WHy did I HaVE TO deAL WITH it ps. I am making it look like he tortured me with the Beatles lol. It was not bad, but this elitist behavior did eventually invade other aspects of the relationship: my taste in films, my knowledge in history (even though he admitted I know so much more than him? And he was a historian? He still had to hear the same info coming from one of his friends in order to take me seriously?), even the fact that I freaking like chicken sausages which he considered to be "really really bad". Back to topic, elitism. Pet peeve No1.
  18. It was a good thing to fight back against elitism, you know? This whole superiority complex that people have without even realizing it. Like, you are into one of the most famous bands of all time, how unique of you. Somehow I don't see the same thing about Queen though. Granted, if you go on 9gag (is it still working? no idea) and try to say you don't like Queen you're gonna be eaten alive, but it has never occurred to me with a group of people in real life, but it has with the Beatles. ps. I do love Queen with all my might, but the observation stands.
  19. @some_dude_on_the_interwebs No, I absolutely meant the 70s, which made it even funnier to see his reaction
  20. Probably one of my pettiest pet peeves: I don't like the Beatles. Which is ok, it's personal preference. BUT I go the extra mile: I just can't stand them because of all the hippie-hipster-vintage cult status they are given by guys. I swear to God you can be in a group of both men and women, and if you dare to say you don't like the Beatles, all the men will be personally offended and will try their best to convince you that you are wrong (as if taste has anything to do with being right/wrong). My ex is largely guilty of this behavior, he even had a huge poster of the Beatles in his living room (I still remember having to carry the heavy as hell portrait case he wanted to put it in) and I would go do the most to show him how much he can't make me like the Beatles: every time he would put on some 70s band, I always ALWAYS said "that's the Beatles, right?"
  21. I agree that the glorification is stupid and very potentially dangerous, but I disagree as to why people even start to take drugs in the first place. Many do so because of psychological or mental health issues, which are way more common than we like to present, or in order to cope with the burden that often comes with fame (anxiety, pressure to perform, no private life, quite often being held hostage by companies etc). I do not feel sorry for people who are too famous to deal with it, because the majority of the population is in way worse conditions (I do make an exemption for kids who became famous early and had abusive parents/representatives/whatever). Stupidity also does play some part in starting drugs, but ending up in suicide is a far road and people don't commit suicide on a mushroom high.
  22. Can we please not reduce suicide to "stupidity" and addiction? Granted, suicide quite often happens because of addiction, but this is just the tip of the iceberg, which tends to be an accumulation of years of abuse, psychological issues, and substance abuse. Or a combination of these, but it rarely happens because of "stupidity". People do not commit suicide because they want to look edgy or angsty, this is a myth we perpetuate in order to avoid dealing with the hard truth, which is that many people need help, to avoid harming both themselves and others, but they don't get it because angst sells more.
  23. On that topic, I find it very irksome when somebody makes one of those "Dear God we will give you Justin Bieber if you give us Dio back" posts. First off, wow so angst, such edge. Second, it's a horrible thing to say. Justin Bieber is a bad person but not because he does not make the type of music we have collectively decided that is "quality" music. People like Dio himself would not have liked these posts either. Or when somebody makes a cover or remix of a song and everybody is like HE/SHE RUIIIINNEEED IT like no, they did not find all physical and digital copies of that song and burned/deleted them, they made a cover which you can absolutely choose not to listen. I have especially seen a lot of that elitism against Tarja's covers, which can be bad, but in no way hinder my enjoyment of an original song for god's sake. edit: I LOVE St. Anger, the song. There, I said it. I had even bought the single.
  24. It is interested though, seeing what is commented most on women by men, and on men by women. Women singers in metal are being commented on their figures, their eyes, the ability to sing and headbang while on high heels, their long hair. Men are being commented on their awesome beards and long hair, eyes too, but figures not so much. Women tend to like men who are either funny or sweet or troubled/tortured (particularly famous among teenagers) before they mention their bodies, while women's characters only seem to come in play in terms of attractiveness when there is a reason for them to appear less attractive, if they are terrible persons. I am happy to see a shift though, with amazing and lovely singers like Anneke or Charlotte. Men seem to comment on their sweetness and down-to-earth aura, rather than their figures. Which I will not say is a bad thing, we all have types of people we find attractive and that certainly includes a person's figure, but I like to see men and women noticing people for less superficial and inconsequential things.
  25. Oh my God "all the time" to someone who has not posted here for an eternity Aaaaanyhoo... Back to the topic in hand. The fact I like to remind myself is that Anette probably does not think of herself as the bad guy in any case, especially since according to her words she tried to have group meetings with the guys to discuss problems and what not. What I am trying to say is, I do feel she is in the wrong in her reactions, but maybe not in her reasons to react. But she absolutely cannot attack fans for liking Floor or whomever, it is just not ethical and not professional. It has already costed her.